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Shannon. 23. They/them pronouns. Homestuck and other assorted fandoms. Lots of complaining about things I like. Strange ideas of what constitutes a cute animal. Accommodating if you need something tagged.

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Jan 20 '12
My problem with Karkat<>Kanaya is that they’re too similar. They  both have a compulsive need to solve other people’s problems while  ignoring or suppressing their own, and they both have a tendency to  convince themselves (and others!) that their destructive and/or  self-destructive actions are helpful. For instance, Kanaya chops off the  legs of a perceived romantic rival, without anesthetics and apparently  without permission or prior warning, and is told that she’s crazy but in  a good way; Karkat goes without sleep, apparently for weeks if not  months, because he doesn’t trust anyone else to handle things if he’s  unconscious for a few hours. And since they regard each other as generally sensible, Karkat and Kanaya don’t call each other out on the really batshit stuff they pull. They give each other the benefit of the doubt and assume their friend had a good reason for doing what they did.
This is a beautiful thing to have in a friendship. It is not a great dynamic for a moirallegiance.
On the other hand, Karkat and Gamzee have always looked out for each other, in their belligerent and spacy ways. Even before their moirallegiance became any kind of official, Karkat spent a significant amount of time and energy trying to keep Gamzee on track, and Gamzee was just as concerned with getting Karkat to unwind. They’re very much aware of each other’s failings, and they care deeply about each other because of that.
It’s not Kanaya that Karkat worries about when she’s out of his sight. It’s not Kanaya that Karkat is willing to physically restrain at the drop of a pin. It’s not Kanaya who Karkat went to for comfort when Sollux died (and I believe that for someone who has spent as much of his life hiding his blood color as Karkat has, crying on someone else is a huge act of trust) and it’s not Kanaya who made the effort to snap Karkat out of it when he was freaking the fuck out over having his entire understanding of the situation overturned.

My problem with Karkat<>Kanaya is that they’re too similar. They both have a compulsive need to solve other people’s problems while ignoring or suppressing their own, and they both have a tendency to convince themselves (and others!) that their destructive and/or self-destructive actions are helpful. For instance, Kanaya chops off the legs of a perceived romantic rival, without anesthetics and apparently without permission or prior warning, and is told that she’s crazy but in a good way; Karkat goes without sleep, apparently for weeks if not months, because he doesn’t trust anyone else to handle things if he’s unconscious for a few hours. And since they regard each other as generally sensible, Karkat and Kanaya don’t call each other out on the really batshit stuff they pull. They give each other the benefit of the doubt and assume their friend had a good reason for doing what they did.

This is a beautiful thing to have in a friendship. It is not a great dynamic for a moirallegiance.

On the other hand, Karkat and Gamzee have always looked out for each other, in their belligerent and spacy ways. Even before their moirallegiance became any kind of official, Karkat spent a significant amount of time and energy trying to keep Gamzee on track, and Gamzee was just as concerned with getting Karkat to unwind. They’re very much aware of each other’s failings, and they care deeply about each other because of that.

It’s not Kanaya that Karkat worries about when she’s out of his sight. It’s not Kanaya that Karkat is willing to physically restrain at the drop of a pin. It’s not Kanaya who Karkat went to for comfort when Sollux died (and I believe that for someone who has spent as much of his life hiding his blood color as Karkat has, crying on someone else is a huge act of trust) and it’s not Kanaya who made the effort to snap Karkat out of it when he was freaking the fuck out over having his entire understanding of the situation overturned.

106 notes (via unpopular-hs-opinions)Tags: GamKar Shipper Feels Gamzee Makara Karkat Vantas Kanaya Maryam

  1. monozu reblogged this from bramblepatch
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  7. karcrabs reblogged this from lampandspider and added:
    ((moirail otp))
  8. lampandspider reblogged this from theangriestemperor and added:
    ((Oh hi I agree with this.))
  9. theangriestemperor reblogged this from suffspeare and added:
    (hi otp how are you today)
  10. jauntlivings reblogged this from unpopular-hs-opinions and added:
    Fundamentally, Karkat and Gamzee’s moirallegiance had to occur so Gamzee wouldn’t murder everyone. This isn’t a matter...
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  12. cortibah reblogged this from blackflirtlarping and added:
    I agree with this opinion!
  13. flollietier reblogged this from shrexything
  14. proliterium reblogged this from birdiyoo and added:
    Never understood KarGam myself actually.
  15. the-bon-legacy reblogged this from aliveling and added:
    PRETTY MUCH THIS IN A NUTSHELL. Love this pairing.
  16. goodbyevirus reblogged this from unpopular-hs-opinions and added:
    While your reasoning is coherent and understandable, OP, the pale quadrant doesn’t operate like friendship at all, which...
  17. princessjanecrocker reblogged this from shrexything and added:
    I agree too. That shoosh/pap bit confused be because i thought KK was from the start. Also, let’s not forget he was...
  18. shrexything reblogged this from unpopular-hs-opinions and added:
    OP LET ME LOVE YOU DOOOOWN THERE’S SO MANY WAYS TO LOVE YOU i mean i like karkatgamzee too but yeah it seems VERY...
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  22. biichama reblogged this from bramblepatch and added:
    Yeah. This is kind of how I feel about the whole situation too. I love Karkat and Kanaya as friends. They are awesome...
  23. bramblepatch reblogged this from unpopular-hs-opinions and added:
    My problem with KarkatKanaya is that they’re too similar. They both have a compulsive need to solve other people’s...
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